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Top Ten Reasons Why Web 2.0 Sucks

  1. The finger pointing culture of fear will always dominate a culture of openness.  Media
    thrives on taking people down and creating a general fear of the worst
    possible outcome.  Whether it's trying enact anti-MySpace laws or
    firing everyone who says a dirty word or two, until we hold our noses
    and fully embrace freedom of expression in this country, we're going to
    hold back the real potential of the internet as a medium of
    conversation and open exchange.  Everyone will be too scared to publish
    anything thought provoking for fear of being stoned by glass house
    dwellers.

  2. The thinking, not just the building, has gotten small and
    lightweight
    ...  Too many people building  features, not applications,
    or, gasp, companies.  People are confusing design with innovation.  Just because you add AJAX and rounded boxes to something does mean you have innovated.
  3. Web 2.0 hasn't even come close to breaking open the carrier choked mobile world.  E-mail and WAP?  That's what I'm paying unlimited data for?  Come on.  We can do better than this.
  4. Web 2.0 is a conversational vacuum. I'll prove it.  Unless you live in the Valley, walk outside your door and try to find a Twitter user... You've got six hours.  Go.  Trust me, we're talking to ourselves.  (Don't get me wrong...  I really like Twitter...  We just need to remind ourselves about how close to the edge we all are out here.)
  5. Spelling and grammr (beta)  have gone to hell in a handbasket.  I'm in ur domainz, droppin' ur vowelz.
  6. M&A Wack-a-mole stopping innovation in its tracks...  Dodgeball, del.icio.us, MyBlogLog...   Some of the most innovative startups have been swallowed into the black holes of big companies, abruptly halting their innovation paths.  Unless we get some more robust business models, some more risk seeking entrepreneurs,  maybe a real IPO market, most of Web 2.0 is going to wind up becoming the corporate walking dead of long forgotten or poorly understood acquisitions.  Consumers suffer when entrepreneurs won't make a go of it on their own and make a bigger impact on their online experience.  (Pleasant exceptions being the  Office-like apps at Google...)
  7. Content licensing is still a bottleneck.  Web 2.0 is all about people and sharing, two things that music and video content owners don't seem to be big fans of.  For now, much of what we share is illegal or user generated.  Freely shareable stuff probably makes up about 2% of the millions of hours of content ever created professionally.  I'd like to blog a clip from the A-Team...  Not only can I not access it easily, I can't clip it easily, and I sure as hell can't publish it legally.   Yet, no one current monetizes it on the web, so it just sits and collects digital dust.
  8. The really juicy data will always remain locked up...    I'd very much like to be able to share my purchases, particularly restaurants, at my own discretion.  Of course, that data is at Mastercard, and I think I'll start wearing "I love the RIAA" shirts before Mastercard starts creating personal RSS feeds or APIs for users to take their own financial data to various applications.  The same with my credit history.  I need to sign up for lots of junk mail to get a credit report... and don't even get me started on my own medical history. 
  9. A lot of powerful people don't participate.  How many VC's out there fund widget companies without having a blog or a MySpace profile?  Any Sony bloggers out there?  What about brand managers that want to do Second Life campaigns without ever having been inside.  How about my elected representatives?  They get out there and kiss babies during election time, but how many blogging elected officials are there?  (And not watered down campaign blogs... actual blogs written by the actual people.)  We could do great things if we weren't so segregated into a small group of people punch drunk on Kool Aid and a great deal of people who've never even heard of Kool Aid. 
  10. MySpace is the most popular social network. Seriously, is this the best we can do?  Spam, hacking, viruses, one song at a time, and no developer network or API?  Facebook is such a better product, but it's really pretty limited as a self expression tool.  Plus, neither really comes close to being able to be my digital home on the web as much as my blog is.   

Reader Comments (34)

so woould you consider this (http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/OmMalik/~3/111962998/)a perfect example of #2??
April 25, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterRob Freeborn
No, actually, not at all. Just because something is small doesn't mean you have to think small.

Like Twitter. If they sold it to Fox to be a status update add-on to MySpace, that would kill me, but if they really got some biz dev going and wanted to be a text driven mobile app platform, that could be very big.

Angel investing and incubators does not necessarily imply small. Naval could wind up finding some very big businesses through this. It's all a matter of how high your goals are, not how low you start.
April 25, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterCharlie
I wasn't thinking about anything as it relates to size but more about the fact that they are going to determine if it's a viable "company" in just a few weeks.....that sounds a lot more like building features then a sound company/product.

here's another way of looking at it - what would have happened if they had passed youtube through this filter with it's first failure as a dating site?
April 25, 2007 | Unregistered Commenterrob
I have yet to see any value in Twitter. It's appears to be a feature, not a product, as Facebook has demonstrated.
April 25, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterAnonymous
well put charlie!

I guess I will have to take a sip of the kool aid and quote tim o'reilly from the web2expo conference and say that we are just at the beginning of web 2.0.

with that said i believe that the people that are doing web2 stuff are in the process of doing it so you dont hear from them just yet. (well at least i hope)

In re: to juicy data i think we have the power to unlock the data but its just tedious but if you want to collect your spending habits you can. i guess tedious=sucks.









April 25, 2007 | Unregistered Commentermichael galpert
The stats very clearly show that less then 1% of web users do things like build personal profiles while 99% browse. On youtube, much less then 1% actually make and upload videos while more then 99% watch....dont drink the koolaid becuase nothing has changed. People like to watch, just like they did 70 year ago when TV first came out.
April 25, 2007 | Unregistered Commenterscience news
Try this website

www.mapmyname.com

and then tell us why this site sucks

:)
April 26, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterSergio
I like #9 most of all, or maybe a mix of 9 and 4 about participation and the vacuum. I think the nits about the technology will find their way as time goes on, but I think you've hit on the slippery, shiny walls that all these rounded corners have left us with. We're at the bottom of a bowl, and everyone else is on the other side. We can't get out to them, but they sure as hell can't get in to us.

Great post. I think I found you via Scoble's link blog.
April 26, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterChris Brogan...
That's a damn good LolCats: http://tinyurl.com/yqr9zr

And an even better post. Very entertaining, and dead on.
April 26, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterAndrew
Thanks for that, enjoyed your words.

So, now I want to hear about what IS your ideal list of checkboxes for a social platform on the net, if it ain't myspace or facebook, or out there buried somewhere.
April 26, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterChris Hambly
Very funny and true. Thanks for the laugh.
April 26, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterStephan Tual
#4 is the one that comes up in my mind the most-- it's an echo chamber-- we need to work to bring in other people-- listeners who have not heard podcasts before, commenters who have not come to your blog, or any blog, before-- how do we do that-- widen our appeal, reach out to through traditional channels and bring people back with us...
April 26, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterDoug Haslam
What I CAN walk right out the door and find are people who seem to dismiss the blogosphere as irrelevant to their lives, businesses, etc. out of hand. Then give 'em a couple of minutes, and they'll be all over you with questions about how to do a podcast, a video, what kinda camera to buy, how to use YouTube. They won't leave me alone with all their billions of pesky questions... yet they think blogs are not important!

They seem to think that if they kinda go about it in some kinda a'la carte method, then they can "control" something: their message, their products, etc.

To the point where I recently began an online video campaign for a politician. The campaign was all for posting videos, but was hesitate to create and maintain a blog. This particular politician told me, "We don't want to be controlled by the blogosphere."

Wishful thinking, eh?!
April 26, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterSpaceyG
I think you raise a bunch of good points except about Twitter and the Silicon Valley echo chamber. It's pretty clear you've never watched http://twittervision.com/ for more than one minute, if even that.

Most Twitterers aren't in the valley, or even in California.
April 26, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterRobert Scoble
Actually, I have seen Twittervision and I love it.

I didn't mean to say that literally all the twitterers were in the Valley...I'm well aware of that. It was a metaphor... But if you don't think there's an echo chamber problem, I vehemently disagree.

I mean, hard as it may seem to believe, for example, I don't think any of my non-tech friends know who you are. :)

cc'd on post (I really hate the way I can't just hit reply and have my response get e-mailed and posted to comments at the same time)

Thanks for the link, btw.
April 26, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterCharlie
in response to "carrier choked mobile world. E-mail and WAP?" and a bunch of other stuff you mentioned

http://www.mysaki.com
April 26, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterBryan
So because Scoble isn't "known" outside of tech circles there must be an echo chamber? How does that follow? There are a ton of people who are "famous" within their specialized communities, but not outside of them. And while I take your point that this may be a "conversational vacuum," how is it any different from any thing else in the world where people with like-minds congregate and converse? Church, schools, companies? They certainly speak mostly to themselves.

And I wonder if you can characterize the 100 million MySpace (shudder) members as "close to the edge" - or the millions on Facebook who do exactly the same thing as Twitter.

On the other hand, most of your points are very nice. In particular I appreciate your calling attention to the vast amount of personal data that a few corporations control with iron grips. When you put it that way, it makes Google seem like a saint as far as privacy is concerned.
April 26, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterKevin M. Keatign
Hey Charlie,

Great post and carries lots of weight for me coming from you, given your sense of enthusiasm and openmindedness. No. 4 and No. 6 resonated with me in particular!
April 26, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterHeather Green
Funny post but that echochamber comment is classic BS. I'm from the east coast now living in Palo Alto and there is no echo chamber. It's called innovation. The people talking to themselves are developers and entrepreneurs. I've watched web 2.0 develop from its roots and the phrase Web 2.0 has been so overused no one really understands what it is anymore ..

I know what web 2.0 is but I'm keeping it to myself :-)
April 26, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterJohn Furrier
Shouldn't developers and entrepreneurs be talking to their intended userbase?

Sure, its useful for us to be talking to ourselves, which is why I started nextNY (www.nextNY.org)...helps to hear about best practices, get inspired, etc... but I think there are far too many instances, particularly among bloggers, where we lose sight of the middle part of the bell curve.

iPhone for example... how many bloggers ripped it for being "closed" and not allowing 3rd party apps, when the reaction of most mainstream users was "Wow, cool!"
April 26, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterCharlie
Reason #11: The digg/techmeme feedback loop has trained everyone to talk in terms of "Top n lists" and "why [popular topic] sucks"
April 26, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterJoshua Allen
roflmao. yeah man, the vowel thing!! oh, i work for pluggd....HEY!!!!!!!!!
April 26, 2007 | Unregistered Commenterdrew olanoff
#5 can't just be blamed on Web 2.0 but it is certainly one which really gets my goat.

Oh and don't start me on Digg. Grrrr....
April 26, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterMike
i'm assuming you're joking here, but the REAL reason Web 2.0 Sucks is... cuz *I* haven't figured out how to make millions off it yet ;)

(ok, so maybe one of my startups hits it big and i'll change my tune on that one).

oh, and while we're at it, here's 10 reasons it DOESN'T suck one bit:http://www.rev2.org/2007/04/14/10-most-successful-web-20-startups-to-date/

- dave mcclurehttp://500hats.typepad.com/
April 26, 2007 | Unregistered Commenterdave mcclure
I think that web 2.0 it's like a cheerleader: Being popular doesn't mean to be the best, but It doesn't matter while everybody loves you. It's all about popular...
April 27, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterYorch

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